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22 Messages

Sunday, June 30th, 2024 12:09 PM

Intermittent connection

hello everybody, I see a lot of people struggle with this issue. Was wondering if anyone had a solution, about 5 PM every day for the past three weeks until 8 PM my Internet drops and show slow speeds especially on the upload side, I’ve had a tech come out replace modem as well as run new coax cable, bypassing splitter, none of this has solved the problem. They have another schedule for Monday. Was wondering if anyone knew from their experience a solution or what the problem is thank you. Have a good day. 

Expert

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107.1K Messages

5 months ago

22 Messages

Thanks for the response, I have tried all of those above the only thing that looks off is my snr is in the 40s 

and my lease expire time is 1 hr and 40 minutes

Expert

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107.1K Messages

5 months ago

@user_13yzmd 

Quite welcome ! SNR values that are in the forties are very good ! Please copy all of the text in its entirety of the *Downstream Power Levels*, the *SNR's* (Signal to Noise Ratios), and the *Upstream Power Level* numbers and paste them into your next post.


What is the exact make and model number of the modem / gateway device ?

Is this with a WiFi connection ?

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Downstream
Channel Bonding Value
Channel ID
12
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
0
48
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
459000000
393000000
399000000
405000000
411000000
417000000
435000000
441000000
453000000
465000000
471000000
477000000
483000000
489000000
495000000
501000000
507000000
513000000
519000000
525000000
531000000
537000000
543000000
549000000
555000000
561000000
567000000
573000000
579000000
585000000
591000000
724800000
SNR
38.983261
38.983261
38.605377
38.983261
38.605377
38.983261
38.983261
38.605377
38.983261
38.983261
38.605377
38.983261
38.605377
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.605377
38.983261
38.983261
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
40.946209
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
42.15 dB
Power Level
9.199997
9.099998
9.099998
9.000000
8.599998
8.699997
9.099998
9.300003
9.199997
9.400002
9.599998
9.699997
9.699997
9.699997
9.800003
9.800003
9.900002
9.900002
10.000000
9.900002
9.800003
10.000000
10.099998
10.000000
10.000000
10.099998
9.800003
10.000000
10.099998
10.000000
10.099998
10.099998 dBmV
Modulation
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
OFDM
Channel ID
12
7
11
10
9
8
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
40400000
10400000
35600000
29200000
22800000
16400000
Symbol Rate
2560 KSym/sec
2560 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
Power Level
43.760300
43.760300
44.020599
44.020599
43.770599
43.770599
Modulation
32QAM
16QAM
16QAM
16QAM
16QAM
16QAM
Channel Type
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
Channel ID
12
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
0
Unerrored Codewords
494227587
492771930
492794741
492799197
492831552
492785618
492808358
492781028
492812884
492817462
492790107
492803788
492845098
492827009
492826428
492840654
492849736
492854198
492776579
492858839
492836043
492863380
492772021
492876881
492817223
492876755
492872433
492881564
492885890
492867861
492822313
0
Correctable Codewords
5
9
2
1
2
8
2
2
3
3
2
2
4
3
2
4
7
4
5
5
6
8
9
5
5
9
9
6
9
7
4
0
Uncorrectable Codewords
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
i have the xb7
Model:TG4482A

22 Messages

also I'm wired but it happens to all

Expert

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107.1K Messages

5 months ago

This may or may not be the root cause of the problem (YMMV) but it should be addressed regardless.


The downstream power is too high. It may be over-driving the front-end receiver circuit of the modem. That can cause random disconnects, spontaneous re-booting of the modem, speed, packet loss, latency problems, and the un-bonding of channels.


Is there a drop amplifier on the coax cable line leading to the modem ? If so, try removing / bypassing it and see. If not, you can try installing a -6 dB forward path-only attenuator pad such as this one on the coax port on the rear of the modem to knock that power level down and see;


https://www.amazon.com/FPA6-54-Forward-Attenuator-DOCSIS-Internet/dp/B08KTRC3XZ 


It won't affect the upstream power level which is within spec. Good luck !

22 Messages

those are out of stock and i dont see anything on the inside. i have a tech coming again monday, is that something they would have?

Expert

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107.1K Messages

5 months ago

Possibly. Good luck with the tech visit ! Please post back here with how it goes.

FWIW. They have those attenuators at Walmart;

https://www.walmart.com/ip/PPC-FPA6-54-Forward-Path-Attenuator-6dB-75-Ohms-for-DOCSIS-Cable-TV-Modems-and-Boxes/218434084 

(edited)

22 Messages

@EG​ He installed two of those pieces you recommended as well as took a splitter off outside connection, it has fixed issues from what i can see so far but the logs read different

DHCPv4[8843]: 72001001-DHCPv4 Provision - Completed 2024/7/1 15:08:19 Informational
DHCPv6[8884]: 72001002-DHCPv6 Provision - Completed 2024/7/1 15:08:16 Informational
DHCPv6[8884]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 82 2024/7/1 15:08:14 Critical
DHCPv6[8884]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 15:08:14 Critical
DHCPv6[8884]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 82 2024/7/1 15:08:13 Critical
DHCPv6[8884]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 15:08:13 Critical
DHCPv6[8884]: 72001004-DHCPv6 Provision - 0 Retries Attempted with Last attempt at Mon Jul 1 21:08:12 2024 2024/7/1 15:08:13 Critical

eRouterEvents[5964]: 72003001-eRouter is administratively disabled 2024/7/1 15:07:07

Informational

Channel ID

12
7
11
10
9
8

Lock Status

Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked

Frequency

40400000
10400000
35600000
29200000
22800000
16400000

Symbol Rate

2560 KSym/sec
2560 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec
5120 KSym/sec

Power Level

37.510300
37.010300
37.270599
37.270599
36.770599
36.770599

Modulation

32QAM
16QAM
16QAM
16QAM
16QAM
16QAM

Channel Type

US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
US_TYPE_ATDMA
Channel ID
20
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
0
Unerrored Codewords
273227663
272026338
272029580
272029583
272016671
272026824
272028125
272027306
272026826
272017018
272026888
272027562
272026551
272016844
272028577
272028037
272026437
272033152
272032033
272032748
272041538
272010248
272030654
272038655
272034621
272039933
272036452
272037932
272037822
272038360
272044403
0
Correctable Codewords
2602
1695
1754
2335
2951
2517
2512
2542
2096
2049
2579
2234
2193
2645
2567
2481
1106
2878
1118
1397
2181
3605
1814
3804
3493
3229
2043
2329
2179
2739
1813
0
Uncorrectable Codewords
64069
68858
69851
81598
81927
71041
71648
72613
62279
74035
72816
73498
73429
72026
72837
72424
68564
65818
60512
69943
80640
55241
79945
65519
75849
76589
60609
68095
59860
81668
69389
0

20
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
0
48
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
507000000
393000000
399000000
405000000
411000000
417000000
435000000
441000000
453000000
459000000
465000000
471000000
477000000
483000000
489000000
495000000
501000000
513000000
519000000
525000000
531000000
537000000
543000000
549000000
555000000
561000000
567000000
573000000
579000000
585000000
591000000
724800000
SNR
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.605377
38.605377
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
40.366287
38.983261
38.983261
40.366287
38.983261
40.366287
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
40.366287
40.366287
40.366287
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
38.983261
40.35 dB
Power Level
7.599998
9.500000
9.400002
9.000000
8.599998
8.500000
8.500000
8.300003
8.199997
8.099998
8.000000
8.199997
8.099998
8.000000
8.000000
7.800003
7.599998
7.599998
7.500000
7.300003
7.099998
7.000000
7.000000
6.699997
6.699997
6.599998
6.300003
6.300003
6.099998
5.900002
5.900002
3.200001 dBmV
Modulation
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
QAM256
OFDM

22 Messages

5 months ago

DHCPv6[10714]: 72001004-DHCPv6 Provision - 2 Retries Attempted with Last attempt at Tue Jul 2 04:53:43 2024 2024/7/1 22:53:45 Critical
DHCPv6[10714]: 72001004-DHCPv6 Provision - 1 Retries Attempted with Last attempt at Tue Jul 2 04:53:42 2024 2024/7/1 22:53:43 Critical
DHCPv6[10714]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 82 2024/7/1 22:53:42 Critical
DHCPv6[10714]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 22:53:42 Critical
DHCPv6[10714]: 72001004-DHCPv6 Provision - 1 Retries Attempted with Last attempt at Tue Jul 2 04:53:39 2024 2024/7/1 22:53:42 Critical
DHCPv6[10714]: 72001004-DHCPv6 Provision - 0 Retries Attempted with Last attempt at Tue Jul 2 04:53:42 2024 2024/7/1 22:53:42 Critical
eRouterEvents[10660]: 72003004-eRouter enabled as Dual Stack 2024/7/1 22:53:39 Informational
eRouterEvents[7753]: 72003001-eRouter is administratively disabled 2024/7/1 22:52:32 Informational
eRouterEvents[7753]: 72003004-eRouter enabled as Dual Stack 2024/7/1 22:52:31 Informational
DHCPv4[8095]: 72001020-DHCPv4 - IP Address Released 2024/7/1 22:52:31 Informational
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 22:52:31 Critical
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 22:52:31 Critical
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001002-DHCPv6 Provision - Completed 2024/7/1 21:41:11 Informational
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 82 2024/7/1 21:41:09 Critical
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 21:41:09 Critical
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001004-DHCPv6 Provision - 0 Retries Attempted with Last attempt at Tue Jul 2 03:41:08 2024 2024/7/1 21:41:09 Critical
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 82 2024/7/1 21:41:08 Critical
DHCPv6[8469]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/1 21:41:08 Critical
DHCPv4[8095]: 72001001-DHCPv4 Provision - Completed 2024/7/1 21:41:02 Informational
eRouterEvents[8032]: 72003004-eRouter enabled as Dual Stack

it seems my DHCPv6 needs to be reconfigured 

22 Messages

4 months ago

update

Still no fix

DHCPv6[11226]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 82 2024/7/11 18:18:54 Critical
DHCPv6[11226]: 72001011-DHCPv6 - Missing Required Option 24 2024/7/11 18:18:54 Critical

22 Messages

4 months ago

update. 7/22/24 issues still not fixed with 3rd modem….. very frustrating and disappointed. It would seem xfinity has an issue with PlayStation that I believe is causing the firewall to trip and block all traffic on the IPv6, this is because the problem is the same across all modems….. I’ve had coax replaced as well….. 

firewall logs in admin center show constant drops 

network test on app show it’s fine but on devices it’s slow speeds 

the port forwarding only works for IPv4 so I am out of luck there 

DMZ didn’t work 

unchecking Stateless option on IPv6 didn’t work

ive tried everything but switching ISP 

which seems to be next never had this type of issue with AT&T 

22 Messages

4 months ago

Downstream
Channel Bonding Value
Index
20
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
48
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
507 MHz
393 MHz
399 MHz
405 MHz
411 MHz
417 MHz
435 MHz
441 MHz
453 MHz
459 MHz
465 MHz
471 MHz
477 MHz
483 MHz
489 MHz
495 MHz
501 MHz
513 MHz
519 MHz
525 MHz
531 MHz
537 MHz
543 MHz
549 MHz
555 MHz
561 MHz
567 MHz
573 MHz
579 MHz
585 MHz
591 MHz
722000000
SNR
41.5 dB
41.6 dB
41.2 dB
41.2 dB
41.1 dB
41.0 dB
41.2 dB
41.4 dB
41.3 dB
41.4 dB
41.2 dB
41.4 dB
41.5 dB
41.4 dB
41.5 dB
41.5 dB
41.3 dB
41.7 dB
41.6 dB
41.6 dB
41.5 dB
41.9 dB
41.8 dB
41.7 dB
42.0 dB
41.9 dB
41.9 dB
42.1 dB
41.8 dB
42.1 dB
42.3 dB
41.0 dB
Power Level
5.4 dBmV
5.6 dBmV
5.6 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.0 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.0 dBmV
5.3 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.3 dBmV
5.5 dBmV
5.4 dBmV
5.6 dBmV
5.6 dBmV
5.4 dBmV
5.4 dBmV
5.3 dBmV
5.4 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.0 dBmV
5.1 dBmV
5.2 dBmV
5.3 dBmV
3.7 dBmV
Modulation
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
OFDM
Upstream
Channel Bonding Value
Index
1
2
3
4
5
6
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
10 MHz
16 MHz
22 MHz
29 MHz
35 MHz
40 MHz
Symbol Rate
2560
5120
5120
5120
5120
2560
Power Level
44.5 dBmV
45.3 dBmV
45.0 dBmV
45.3 dBmV
45.5 dBmV
45.3 dBmV
Modulation
QAM
QAM
QAM
QAM
QAM
QAM
Channel Type
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA

22 Messages

4 months ago

All logs from Last Week
FW.IPv6 FORWARD drop , 237 Attempts, 2024/7/22 02:51:39 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 2156 Attempts, 2024/7/22 02:51:39 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 9612 Attempts, 2024/7/21 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 FORWARD drop , 1255 Attempts, 2024/7/21 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
Device [Edit: Personal Information] , 4656 Attempts, 2024/7/21 14:05:26 Device Blocked
FW.WANATTACK DROP , 1 Attempts, 2024/7/20 19:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 8218 Attempts, 2024/7/19 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 FORWARD drop , 298 Attempts, 2024/7/19 15:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.LAN2SELF DROP , 4 Attempts, 2024/7/18 20:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 FORWARD drop , 90 Attempts, 2024/7/18 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 6160 Attempts, 2024/7/18 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 9435 Attempts, 2024/7/17 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 FORWARD drop , 82 Attempts, 2024/7/17 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
Device [Edit: Personal Information] , 9282 Attempts, 2024/7/17 17:41:01 Device Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 10473 Attempts, 2024/7/16 17:58:00 Firewall Blocked
FW.IPv6 INPUT drop , 4375 Attempts, 2024/7/15 17:58:00 Firewal

(edited)

22 Messages

4 months ago

ive been having connection drops and upload speed loss for a month and a half, ive had 5 modems, a new line put in, as well as the node switched.... still i am told that everything looks fine and i need to pay more money so my speed can be compatible with my modem, i dont buy that for a second. [Edited: "Soliciting"]

Downstream
Channel Bonding Value
Channel ID
28
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
555 MHz
489 MHz
495 MHz
501 MHz
507 MHz
513 MHz
519 MHz
525 MHz
531 MHz
537 MHz
543 MHz
549 MHz
561 MHz
567 MHz
573 MHz
579 MHz
585 MHz
591 MHz
597 MHz
603 MHz
609 MHz
615 MHz
621 MHz
627 MHz
633 MHz
639 MHz
645 MHz
651 MHz
657 MHz
663 MHz
669 MHz
722000000
SNR
41.6 dB
41.4 dB
41.4 dB
41.2 dB
41.3 dB
41.5 dB
41.4 dB
41.3 dB
41.4 dB
41.4 dB
41.3 dB
41.5 dB
41.6 dB
41.7 dB
41.7 dB
41.7 dB
41.5 dB
41.7 dB
41.8 dB
41.7 dB
41.8 dB
41.6 dB
41.6 dB
41.6 dB
41.6 dB
41.5 dB
41.7 dB
41.4 dB
41.2 dB
41.2 dB
41.2 dB
40.2 dB
Power Level
2.6 dBmV
3.1 dBmV
3.1 dBmV
3.0 dBmV
3.0 dBmV
3.0 dBmV
2.9 dBmV
2.9 dBmV
2.8 dBmV
2.8 dBmV
2.8 dBmV
2.6 dBmV
2.7 dBmV
2.5 dBmV
2.5 dBmV
2.5 dBmV
2.4 dBmV
2.6 dBmV
2.7 dBmV
2.6 dBmV
2.5 dBmV
2.3 dBmV
2.3 dBmV
2.3 dBmV
2.3 dBmV
2.2 dBmV
2.3 dBmV
2.0 dBmV
1.6 dBmV
1.7 dBmV
1.9 dBmV
1.1 dBmV
Modulation
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
256 QAM
OFDM

Channel ID
7
8
9
10
11
12
Lock Status
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Locked
Frequency
10 MHz
16 MHz
22 MHz
29 MHz
35 MHz
40 MHz
Symbol Rate
2560
5120
5120
5120
5120
2560
Power Level
44.3 dBmV
44.3 dBmV
44.3 dBmV
44.3 dBmV
44.3 dBmV
44.5 dBmV
Modulation
QAM
QAM
QAM
QAM
QAM
QAM
Channel Type
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
ATDMA
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled STILL HAVING ISSUES

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4 months ago

Silencing my post on here is crazy

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Xfinity trying to scam me into paying more

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ive been having connection drops and upload speed loss for a month and a half, ive had 5 modems, a new line put in, as well as the node switched.... still i am told that everything looks fine and i need to pay more money so my speed can be compatible with my modem, i dont buy that for a second. more than likely my connection is being throttled so heads up to anyone having the same issue,,,[Edited: "Solicitation"]

ps just had my 6th tech told

me I need some kind of network signal technician to come out and fix the SnR on upstream, after all this would be my 7th tech so I’m going to take my time money and business to AT&T

also support will lie to you and tell you things to get you to pay more, [Edited: "Inflammatory"]

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Official Employee

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1.7K Messages

@user_13yzmd  We are still here to help you, please respond to our last DM so we can pick up where we left off! We know how important this is to your home and we are looking forward to hearing from you. 

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